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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.rocbike.com/2007/12/14/let-it-snow-but-let-it-be-shoveled-too/comment-page-1/#comment-2383</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CCC, I&#039;m definitely interested in finding common ground here, and your second post indicates that you are, as well. So I&#039;m glad to move along to the central issue: accessibility and mobility.

I was buoyed by an exchange I heard this afternoon between Mayor Duffy and a caller to Bob Smith&#039;s show on 1370 AM. The caller, someone associated with the Center for Disability Rights (great group, by the way), complimented Duffy on the way his Environmental Services staff are caring for the sidewalks. Last winter, as Duffy recalled on-air, city officials went up to Lake Avenue and at the invitation of CDR folks, attempted to navigate walkways there via wheelchair. Needless to say, they didn&#039;t get far.

Since then, according to the caller, the walkways (at least in the vicinity of CDR) are in good shape. Still, the mayor&#039;s admirable concern doesn&#039;t necessarily translate into good conditions elswhere. Late this afternoon I biked from my house in the Highland Park neighborhood to the Cumberland Street post office. (BTW, I encourage all to do their postal business at this branch and by so doing, boost downtown a little.) At many points in downtown and the Monroe-Meigs area I saw unmaintained sidewalks and intersections that would force wheechair users (or elders with walkers or canes, etc.) into the streets.

But the streets, too, were littered with spots that would challenge anyone trying to get from point A to point B - and would take down many and inexperienced bicyclist, especially if he/she didn&#039;t have suitable tires (and these spots will of course get worse as the temperature drops tonight, making studded tires essential).

So we&#039;ve got lots of work to do, whether through nonviolent direct action or &quot;working within the system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCC, I&#8217;m definitely interested in finding common ground here, and your second post indicates that you are, as well. So I&#8217;m glad to move along to the central issue: accessibility and mobility.</p>
<p>I was buoyed by an exchange I heard this afternoon between Mayor Duffy and a caller to Bob Smith&#8217;s show on 1370 AM. The caller, someone associated with the Center for Disability Rights (great group, by the way), complimented Duffy on the way his Environmental Services staff are caring for the sidewalks. Last winter, as Duffy recalled on-air, city officials went up to Lake Avenue and at the invitation of CDR folks, attempted to navigate walkways there via wheelchair. Needless to say, they didn&#8217;t get far.</p>
<p>Since then, according to the caller, the walkways (at least in the vicinity of CDR) are in good shape. Still, the mayor&#8217;s admirable concern doesn&#8217;t necessarily translate into good conditions elswhere. Late this afternoon I biked from my house in the Highland Park neighborhood to the Cumberland Street post office. (BTW, I encourage all to do their postal business at this branch and by so doing, boost downtown a little.) At many points in downtown and the Monroe-Meigs area I saw unmaintained sidewalks and intersections that would force wheechair users (or elders with walkers or canes, etc.) into the streets.</p>
<p>But the streets, too, were littered with spots that would challenge anyone trying to get from point A to point B &#8211; and would take down many and inexperienced bicyclist, especially if he/she didn&#8217;t have suitable tires (and these spots will of course get worse as the temperature drops tonight, making studded tires essential).</p>
<p>So we&#8217;ve got lots of work to do, whether through nonviolent direct action or &#8220;working within the system.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Commuting Cyclist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Commuting Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,
If the leftist terminology used paints the person or group as a bunch of crack pots.  Certainly you and anyone else that supports you are not crack pots. I believe after all you and any of the others in your group have done, have a right for some justice. I am with you in spirit. 
I am confused on why the city will not enforce its own laws and reap a fine when it comes to snow removal violations? Is the fine that low? Between property tax, and parking fines I would think that any other fine they can collect would be sought to line their coffers. I know that in my city it seems that with each New Year a raise in my property tax seems to follow. 
I do like the idea of the yellow food coloring in the snow spelling out “Shovel Me” that made me laugh. Who knows that could be part of your nonviolent direct action you could take. 

Hey are you guys going to do any new pod cases? I rather enjoyed listening to them. 

Keep up the fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,<br />
If the leftist terminology used paints the person or group as a bunch of crack pots.  Certainly you and anyone else that supports you are not crack pots. I believe after all you and any of the others in your group have done, have a right for some justice. I am with you in spirit.<br />
I am confused on why the city will not enforce its own laws and reap a fine when it comes to snow removal violations? Is the fine that low? Between property tax, and parking fines I would think that any other fine they can collect would be sought to line their coffers. I know that in my city it seems that with each New Year a raise in my property tax seems to follow.<br />
I do like the idea of the yellow food coloring in the snow spelling out “Shovel Me” that made me laugh. Who knows that could be part of your nonviolent direct action you could take. </p>
<p>Hey are you guys going to do any new pod cases? I rather enjoyed listening to them. </p>
<p>Keep up the fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.rocbike.com/2007/12/14/let-it-snow-but-let-it-be-shoveled-too/comment-page-1/#comment-2376</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the connections between RAC, the “c” and “p” words, and lack of snow removal were obvious: it&#039;s the predator, bent on extracting the maximum profit and avoiding investments in the community, who is most likely to cut corners (or leave them piled with ice and snow, in this instance) and evade basic social responsibility.

My experiences over the years with Monroe Ave. bear this out. The most consistently responsible businesses are the small operators, like those around Monroe-Oxford, that do a pretty good shoveling job. (There are notable exceptions, like the law office at the corner of Monroe and Dartmouth, which has been a consistent shirker – and is thus one to watch this year.) And the worst offenders are the corporate chains, including Blockbuster as well as RAC.

In any case, I think we should speak frankly among ourselves. Is it only in America that leftist terminology draws reflexive finger-wagging?

Believe me, people have been working through channels (public and private) to get proper snow removal. As a journalist, I’ve written about the problems for a long time: I’ve interviewed public officials, covered the efforts of disability-rights groups to get action from City Hall, and publicized the woes of elders and others who become housebound because of impassable sidewalks, etc. And as a private citizen, I’ve tried to engage the NET office, and have lodged complaints with City Hall about its own failure to clear walkways under municipal control, e.g. on the bridges. And I have to say, all this has pretty well come to naught, as can be seen with each new snowfall.

It’s a myth that the city doesn’t have time to enforce the law in this regard. All it takes is the issuance of tickets, and this can be done as easily as it is done with parking violations. The plain fact is, the city is not inclined to do much of anything. The policy comes down to this: millions for “zero tolerance,” but only pennies for alternative transportation. Officials don’t even do any serious education – so it’s no wonder people believe that the sidewalk plows take care of everything, relieving property owners and occupants of further responsibility.

Personally, I think only some kind of nonviolent direct action will get the ball rolling here. The disability rights movement has shown the way, with the judicious use of demonstrations and blockades and public shaming, along with standard lobbying and civic engagement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the connections between RAC, the “c” and “p” words, and lack of snow removal were obvious: it&#8217;s the predator, bent on extracting the maximum profit and avoiding investments in the community, who is most likely to cut corners (or leave them piled with ice and snow, in this instance) and evade basic social responsibility.</p>
<p>My experiences over the years with Monroe Ave. bear this out. The most consistently responsible businesses are the small operators, like those around Monroe-Oxford, that do a pretty good shoveling job. (There are notable exceptions, like the law office at the corner of Monroe and Dartmouth, which has been a consistent shirker – and is thus one to watch this year.) And the worst offenders are the corporate chains, including Blockbuster as well as RAC.</p>
<p>In any case, I think we should speak frankly among ourselves. Is it only in America that leftist terminology draws reflexive finger-wagging?</p>
<p>Believe me, people have been working through channels (public and private) to get proper snow removal. As a journalist, I’ve written about the problems for a long time: I’ve interviewed public officials, covered the efforts of disability-rights groups to get action from City Hall, and publicized the woes of elders and others who become housebound because of impassable sidewalks, etc. And as a private citizen, I’ve tried to engage the NET office, and have lodged complaints with City Hall about its own failure to clear walkways under municipal control, e.g. on the bridges. And I have to say, all this has pretty well come to naught, as can be seen with each new snowfall.</p>
<p>It’s a myth that the city doesn’t have time to enforce the law in this regard. All it takes is the issuance of tickets, and this can be done as easily as it is done with parking violations. The plain fact is, the city is not inclined to do much of anything. The policy comes down to this: millions for “zero tolerance,” but only pennies for alternative transportation. Officials don’t even do any serious education – so it’s no wonder people believe that the sidewalk plows take care of everything, relieving property owners and occupants of further responsibility.</p>
<p>Personally, I think only some kind of nonviolent direct action will get the ball rolling here. The disability rights movement has shown the way, with the judicious use of demonstrations and blockades and public shaming, along with standard lobbying and civic engagement.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, I like that idea.  Last year, when I just walked to work in the winter instead of being brave enough to bike to work, there was one business I would pass every day who repeatedly plowed the snow from their parking lot into a big pile blocking the sidewalk.  I would have to walk out well into the street and oncoming traffic to get around.  So every time I had to do that, I made a big snowball out of the parking lot slush and chucked it at their front door.  But your way seems more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, I like that idea.  Last year, when I just walked to work in the winter instead of being brave enough to bike to work, there was one business I would pass every day who repeatedly plowed the snow from their parking lot into a big pile blocking the sidewalk.  I would have to walk out well into the street and oncoming traffic to get around.  So every time I had to do that, I made a big snowball out of the parking lot slush and chucked it at their front door.  But your way seems more effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a shaming campaign? Load up some water pistols with colored water and write &quot;Shovel me&quot; messages in the snow outside offending businesses. If we used yellow food coloring, businesses would probably be eager to shovel it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a shaming campaign? Load up some water pistols with colored water and write &#8220;Shovel me&#8221; messages in the snow outside offending businesses. If we used yellow food coloring, businesses would probably be eager to shovel it away.</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Commuting Cyclist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Commuting Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see how pointing out that a particular business is a good example of a “predatory, parasitic capitalism,” has anything to do with snow removal in front of a shop? I may agree that RAC is a business that is a predator of the ignorant in finance, but I don’t think that statement will win hearts of the common person.  

Here are my suggestions that I have on this issue; Talk or write to the owners of the business and let them know your concerns as a citizen who must use the sidewalk.  This may or may not help but it is worth a try. Next, talk to the city government as a group. I know this has been tried but maybe a couple of large groups hammering them may light a fire under the belly of the beast. How about press? As a group the press maybe willing to talk to you especially because the weather is a hot topic. Nothing upsets and motivates a business owner to make the right choices as bad press. 

The biggest problem working against us is the fact that the cities’ first priority is to clear the roads for cars, buses, and emergency vehicles to travel safely on. So with all that is involved in clearing snow, the city doesn’t have time to chase down violators of the snow removal law. Business owners know this fact and take advantage of it. We are a minority, or as some view it as a kook fringe that use cycles to commute, so we are put very far down on the list of priorities. If you band together, point out the problem of snow covered sidewalks, be relentless and above all present this issue in a way that doesn’t make you look like a kook fringe, you could make a difference. 

Good luck. Keep us posted on how this progresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see how pointing out that a particular business is a good example of a “predatory, parasitic capitalism,” has anything to do with snow removal in front of a shop? I may agree that RAC is a business that is a predator of the ignorant in finance, but I don’t think that statement will win hearts of the common person.  </p>
<p>Here are my suggestions that I have on this issue; Talk or write to the owners of the business and let them know your concerns as a citizen who must use the sidewalk.  This may or may not help but it is worth a try. Next, talk to the city government as a group. I know this has been tried but maybe a couple of large groups hammering them may light a fire under the belly of the beast. How about press? As a group the press maybe willing to talk to you especially because the weather is a hot topic. Nothing upsets and motivates a business owner to make the right choices as bad press. </p>
<p>The biggest problem working against us is the fact that the cities’ first priority is to clear the roads for cars, buses, and emergency vehicles to travel safely on. So with all that is involved in clearing snow, the city doesn’t have time to chase down violators of the snow removal law. Business owners know this fact and take advantage of it. We are a minority, or as some view it as a kook fringe that use cycles to commute, so we are put very far down on the list of priorities. If you band together, point out the problem of snow covered sidewalks, be relentless and above all present this issue in a way that doesn’t make you look like a kook fringe, you could make a difference. </p>
<p>Good luck. Keep us posted on how this progresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should send an email reminder to the various Merchants associations in the area - Park Ave, Monroe, South Wedge, etc.  It&#039;ll be hard for the businesses to stay on top of it today, but you would think that they would shovel since almost all city businesses rely on foot traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should send an email reminder to the various Merchants associations in the area &#8211; Park Ave, Monroe, South Wedge, etc.  It&#8217;ll be hard for the businesses to stay on top of it today, but you would think that they would shovel since almost all city businesses rely on foot traffic.</p>
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