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	<title>Comments on: Doom And Gloom</title>
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	<description>Nothing To Lose But Our Chains!</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By all means, check out the advice from the late, great Sheldon Brown. I do differ with him on one point: It&#039;s smart to remove your front wheel and lock it to the rear wheel and frame (and of course, lock up the whole kit and caboodle to a secure signpost or rack that&#039;s publicly visible and well-lit). Or you can carry your front wheel away with you. But I think it&#039;s just as good to use the wonderful Kryptonite Mini (on mine, I put a two-dollar reinforcing cuff over the weak end of the cylinder as an extra measure) to lock the frame and then a strong cable lock (preferably one embedded with metal shards to resist cable cutters) to secure both wheels. I once had a thief cut a cheaper cable, but he was thwarted by the u-lock. The trick is to make the thief take a long time; in high-visibility and high-traffic areas, no sane thief will spend more than a few seconds applying tools to your locks. If you use a cheap, thin cable, the thief needs only those few seconds to cut it, and then speed away on the getaway vehicle you&#039;ve unintentionally provided him. But even with monster locks, if you lock up in the wrong location, a thief can work at his leisure, and given enough time and the right tools, your seven pound lock is toast. Another consideration: you don&#039;t want to leave your bike someplace out of the way even if it&#039;s physically as secure as Fort Knox, since bikes also are vulnerable to vandalism - and accessories can be lifted with ease, as well. (I recall a time when there was a fashion in NYC for side-kicking wheels/spokes to make them collapse - or maybe this was an urban legend, though I remember seeing a good number of bikes locked along sidewalks there that had wheels resembling taco shells!) Of course, if you have a true folding bike, you can carry it inside a building with you - but even in this case, you should carry good locks for certain situations, like a trip to the public market, where you don&#039;t want to tote a suitcase-size bundle as you shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means, check out the advice from the late, great Sheldon Brown. I do differ with him on one point: It&#8217;s smart to remove your front wheel and lock it to the rear wheel and frame (and of course, lock up the whole kit and caboodle to a secure signpost or rack that&#8217;s publicly visible and well-lit). Or you can carry your front wheel away with you. But I think it&#8217;s just as good to use the wonderful Kryptonite Mini (on mine, I put a two-dollar reinforcing cuff over the weak end of the cylinder as an extra measure) to lock the frame and then a strong cable lock (preferably one embedded with metal shards to resist cable cutters) to secure both wheels. I once had a thief cut a cheaper cable, but he was thwarted by the u-lock. The trick is to make the thief take a long time; in high-visibility and high-traffic areas, no sane thief will spend more than a few seconds applying tools to your locks. If you use a cheap, thin cable, the thief needs only those few seconds to cut it, and then speed away on the getaway vehicle you&#8217;ve unintentionally provided him. But even with monster locks, if you lock up in the wrong location, a thief can work at his leisure, and given enough time and the right tools, your seven pound lock is toast. Another consideration: you don&#8217;t want to leave your bike someplace out of the way even if it&#8217;s physically as secure as Fort Knox, since bikes also are vulnerable to vandalism &#8211; and accessories can be lifted with ease, as well. (I recall a time when there was a fashion in NYC for side-kicking wheels/spokes to make them collapse &#8211; or maybe this was an urban legend, though I remember seeing a good number of bikes locked along sidewalks there that had wheels resembling taco shells!) Of course, if you have a true folding bike, you can carry it inside a building with you &#8211; but even in this case, you should carry good locks for certain situations, like a trip to the public market, where you don&#8217;t want to tote a suitcase-size bundle as you shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.rocbike.com/2008/09/29/doom-and-gloom/comment-page-1/#comment-17912</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thumbs down to whiners. Who was whining? The speakers? The questioners? Both?

I find there are solutions to various problems. No bike lane / people pass too close? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rocbike.com/2007/10/29/the-down-low-glow-has-arrived/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project a &quot;no car zone&quot; onto the street at night&lt;/a&gt;. Don&#039;t like having bikes stolen? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lock your bike the Sheldon Brown way&lt;/a&gt;.

The people getting killed part sucks, but we must remember, even if we get run over from time to time, our life expectancy increases the more we ride!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumbs down to whiners. Who was whining? The speakers? The questioners? Both?</p>
<p>I find there are solutions to various problems. No bike lane / people pass too close? <a href="http://www.rocbike.com/2007/10/29/the-down-low-glow-has-arrived/" rel="nofollow">Project a &#8220;no car zone&#8221; onto the street at night</a>. Don&#8217;t like having bikes stolen? <a href="http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html" rel="nofollow">Lock your bike the Sheldon Brown way</a>.</p>
<p>The people getting killed part sucks, but we must remember, even if we get run over from time to time, our life expectancy increases the more we ride!</p>
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